Tubeless Tire Maintenance... Taking them off and Cleaning them??

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gSporco
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Hey WW's,

How often if at all are you all pulling your Tubeless Tires off during a season and cleaning out the dried sealant and then putting them back on with fresh sealant?

What I really want to know is:

1. Are you all doing this?
2. How safe is it to remove and install tubeless tires over and over; does this wear the bead out?

I use Orange seal endurance Sealant, and it is lasting about 6 months.. I am about 1 month away before I would "like" to clean the gubers out and replace with fresh sealant..

Your thoughts?

Thanks in Advance!

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by bm0p700f on Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:18 am

Never take them of to clean. Reseating can be a real problem.

Use a sealant does not ball up. Orange seal.doesnt

If you want to keep the inside of your tyres clean then use an inner tube instead.

Tubeless requires the user not to do to.much. do as little as possible, top up with sealant by injecting, plug a tyre only if the sealant can't hold a rideable pressure, and remove tyres only when they are done.

If the above troubles you stick to tubes.

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by wltz on Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:05 am

Seconding Malcolm. Every time I took a worn out tubeless tyre off a rim, the amount of dried latex residue was absolutely minimal and not worth mid-lifecycle interventions.

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by gSporco on Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:02 am

Interesting.. not the answer(s) I was expecting.. Thank you

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by commendatore on Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:42 am

Not worth it. Top off sealant until the tire needs replaced and then bin it.

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by Orlok on Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:11 am

gSporco wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:02 am

Interesting.. not the answer(s) I was expecting.. Thank you

What did you expect for answers.?

The only time I wipe the tubeless tire off is when I had a puncture to repair it from the inside or when I change the front and back tires positions and never clean the tires and never use new sealant, take the old one and put it back into the tires.!

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by kode54 on Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:56 pm

Yup. That's what I do. When I have the time, I'll take the tire off to patch the hole from the inside with a tube patch...but only do that if the puncture is large and the tire is somewhat new. Large punctures on old tires, I just top off sealant and leave the DynaPlug in.

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by gSporco on Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:24 pm

Orlok wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:11 am

gSporco wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:02 am

Interesting.. not the answer(s) I was expecting.. Thank you

What did you expect for answers.?

The only time I wipe the tubeless tire off is when I had a puncture to repair it from the inside or when I change the front and back tires positions and never clean the tires and never use new sealant, take the old one and put it back into the tires.!

Well I know Rides of Japan is a bit OCD with cleaning and the ultimate WW so thought it was a common thing some riders did. I will also add that one of my wheelset had sat for 6 months and i decided to remove the fron tire and noticed the pooled sealnt was Completely coagulated and I figured that if I did not remove it and just added more sealant that it would act as a balancing wait and possibly at high speeds throw the balance of the tire off causing a hop or bobble

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by 3phase on Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:13 am

I did remove mine...twice...but won't do it again. I was using Stans then. Initially it's kinda therapeutic removing those boogers but i got better things to do hahaha. So now I don't, just top up when needed

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by rides4beer on Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:00 pm

Dunno, I've never had a set of tires last six months. lol

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by MikeD on Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:00 pm

bm0p700f wrote:Never take them of to clean. Reseating can be a real problem.

Use a sealant does not ball up. Orange seal.doesnt

If you want to keep the inside of your tyres clean then use an inner tube instead.

Tubeless requires the user not to do to.much. do as little as possible, top up with sealant by injecting, plug a tyre only if the sealant can't hold a rideable pressure, and remove tyres only when they are done.

If the above troubles you stick to tubes.

The problem with that is the front tire usually rots out before it wears out. I like to put the new tire on the front and rotate the used front to the back.

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by Miller on Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:03 pm

bm0p700f wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:18 am

Never take them of to clean. Reseating can be a real problem.

Not sure I totally agree, if you leave a tubeless tyre on for a long time, it can be a right b@stard to dislodge from the rim. But what is true is that old tyres are looser than new tyres when it comes to refitting them.

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by Cleaner on Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:31 pm

This is the context of MTB tires in a subtropical environment. I use Orange Seal endurance and it dries out completely long before I wear out a tire. I do remove the tire and clean out the dried up sealant, it can be tedious. It usually is not evenly distributed as it pools up in a specific location when stored.

I have found that a textile work glove coated with a rubber palm allows me to roll most of the dried sealant off of the caracass quickly. Just make sure to clean the bead very well of dried sealant before remounting.

You do not need to clean out the dried sealant and can just add more liquid but I clean the inside of the tire when replacing sealant.

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by gSporco on Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:02 pm

Inhave 3 wheelsets, setup tubeless and I obviously do not ride all of the equally therefore sealant will dry up before the tires wear out. That is why I started this thread. Also after removing one tire that wasnt used for awhile I noticed the sealant pooled in ine area which is normal but formed a large spot of 30g worth of rubber..

J hust figured it was normal or part of maintenance tk remove scrape and re apply sealant

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by ghostinthemachine on Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:27 pm

Only clean mine (MTB) if i swap tyres. Even then, it's just a quick scrub and picking the bigger liumps off. (and cleaning the bead so it seats ok next time.)